RSL may seek new sites for stadium

Czar Jake · 02-17-2005, 11:08 AM

Maybe we could make some banners telling the gov't how we feel for the first game... remember it's only a couple months away!

Hiddnfox · 02-17-2005, 11:26 AM

lets all take a day off and decorate our cars and go up to the capital to protest that we want the stadium now! and we wont leave until we have it....or until dinner time which ever comes first!

Jose Luis Luviano · 02-17-2005, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rover

SBC Park, Coors Field, and Camden Yards are good examples. .

SBC Park = Funded by the Giants & sponsors. Very little taxpayer funding.

Camden Yards = Funded by taxpayers.

This is, of course, anecdotal evidence. But when I was in Baltimore in 2001, parts of it looked poorer & more dangerous than Tijuana. Of course, the area near Camden Yards & the Ravens' field is nice.

I'll have to check the statistics, but Baltimore's murder rate & poverty rate are nothing to write home about.

Larry H Miller, like a previous poster alluded to, is busy trying to attract an expansion Major League Baseball team. Or he will move the Twins here because Minnesotans are too smart to pay blackmail to replace the Metrodome.

Rover · 02-17-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Luis Luviano

SBC Park = Funded by the Giants & sponsors. Very little taxpayer funding.

Camden Yards = Funded by taxpayers.

This is, of course, anecdotal evidence. But when I was in Baltimore in 2001, parts of it looked poorer & more dangerous than Tijuana. Of course, the area near Camden Yards & the Ravens' field is nice.

I'll have to check the statistics, but Baltimore's murder rate & poverty rate are nothing to write home about.

Baltimore is ALWAYS at the bottom of crime and poverty stats. You can't change that overnight. The Inner Harbor and Camden Yards areas are big improvements over what was there before. The city as a whole can't be saved by a stadium.

My point was that stadium developments do the most good when they are part of a larger, integrated project. FedEx Field in Landover is big, functional, and lifeless except when the Redskins play at home. So SBC was privately funded and Coors Field was publicly funded. That's another issue. The important thing is that they made a big, positive impact on their cities.

Also, my point was that the economic arguments against stadiums (substitution effect/zero sum) are skewed by the worst cases that are failures due to poor overall planning, not something inherently bad about building stadiums. Stadiums as the center of a larger redevelopment can work very well, and I think SLC has all the factors to do just that.

montgjules · 02-17-2005, 02:20 PM

My final vote on the stadium issue is that we tear out the majority of the buildings along state street in Orem (would anybody but the property owners object? Anybody? Anybody??) and build the stadium here.

Czar Jake · 02-17-2005, 04:48 PM

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My final vote on the stadium issue is that we tear out the majority of the buildings along state street in Orem (would anybody but the property owners object? Anybody? Anybody??) and build the stadium here.

haha you mean the endless lines of gas stations and fast food chains? I'm not so sure the property owners would even object!

Hiddnfox · 02-17-2005, 04:52 PM

yea, i used to live down near there. evertime i drive by it i cant believe how even more ugly that area has become. TEAR IT ALL DOWN!

although even if they did it would just be replaced by a 200 acre Wal-Mart

Czar Jake · 02-17-2005, 04:57 PM

If they want to make a Mal-Wart out of it, why not tear down everything along state street starting in Pleasant Grove and all the way down to Provo, and just put in one really long skinny Mal-Wart? At least it would look different!

montgjules · 02-17-2005, 10:23 PM

I have to admit this is a big sore spot for me as an Orem resident. I've heard it referred to as "The Ugliest Street in America" and I would have to agree. There are approximately three attractive buildings, and every time they tear something old down, I get all excited only to discover another (yet ANOTHER) gas station or grey block building going in. And don't even get me going on the pathetic short-sightedness of the city council. They voted against 99% of the city's opinion about the accessory apartment issue, which happens to be the one (ONE) reason I actually live in Orem. Next time I build a house.......

(It just occurred to me... I say "next time I build a house" as if this is a frequent occurrence. So far I'm averaging 2.5 years per house and I'm only 26. Is this a bad trend?)

(Thanks for listening to the ramblings of a tired pregnant lady. Back to whatever the subject was... Oh yeah... Viva Real Orem!)