What's the deal Kreis...(R)

SoccerPrime · 05-02-2006, 05:33 AM

I asked my buddy who is a MLS ref (can't reveail his name, sorry) about this. He says Kreis didn't deserve a red, but Kennedy probably just forgot he yellow him already.

Sad, really.

huntingfool12 · 05-02-2006, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rover

Sure looked like your basic professional foul to me.

Yes his first foul was a professional foul and deserved a yellow card...

bordelais7 · 05-02-2006, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by huntingfool12

Yes his first foul was a professional foul and deserved a yellow card...

Yes, but my point was that it certainly wasn't the first foul of this type in the game. If Kreis deserved a yellow card, then so did 5 or 6 other players. Inconsistent officiating.

rslfutbolfan · 05-02-2006, 07:58 AM

I assume the officials have training sessions and go back and watch the calls from the games and talk if they were valid or not? The officials have been consistantly inconsistant this year and last.... Something needs to be done.... Why dont some of you guys go to ref school????

huntingfool12 · 05-02-2006, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bordelais7

Yes, but my point was that it certainly wasn't the first foul of this type in the game. If Kreis deserved a yellow card, then so did 5 or 6 other players. Inconsistent officiating.

Thats also true... many galaxy players should have been carded for there fouls.

I_Believe_In_Kreis · 05-02-2006, 08:41 AM

A few thoughts........
1. It's obvious Kennedy forgot he'd carded Kreis earlier - hell, it took half the LAG team to remind him. And watching Kennedy's body language it's obvious he wouldn't have issued the card had he remembered. Every ref's made calls he regrets, and I promise you Kennedy is thinking about this one. But as a ref, you're taught not to back down after you make a call, even if it's the wrong call. That's hard sometimes when you know you've screwed up. And the league won't back down either - they want to show solidarity so the suspension will never get overturned.
2. That said, Kreis should know he's not going to get that call in the box in the 86th minute of a 3-2 game. Like it or not, the rules change in the box, and depending on the score and the time remaining. No ref's going to affect the outcome of the game unless it's totally obvious because he doesn't want his house to get firebombed. I suspect Kreis' outrage wasn't so much about this exact no-call as it was just a release of 90 minutes worth of frustration. This was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
3. Finally, props to Chris Albright for being aware of the situation and knowing what he could get away with in that circumstance.

dysko · 05-02-2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by rslfutbolfan

Why dont some of you guys go to ref school????

I have gone to reffing school... technically I have a high enough certification level to officiate MLS games, but wouldn't want to. I am to much of a fan of the game to ref anything higher than High School level. After that I am afraid I would end up watching a game I should be officiating.

RSL_Fan · 05-02-2006, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by I_Believe_In_Kreis

A few thoughts........
2. That said, Kreis should know he's not going to get that call in the box in the 86th minute of a 3-2 game. Like it or not, the rules change in the box, and depending on the score and the time remaining. No ref's going to affect the outcome of the game unless it's totally obvious because he doesn't want his house to get firebombed. I suspect Kreis' outrage wasn't so much about this exact no-call as it was just a release of 90 minutes worth of frustration. This was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

Actually, it wasn't in the box. I thought it was at the game, but look at the replay...it was just outside the box. Just continued inconsistency from the ref. Tough break for Kreis.