Hymn

[montgjules]

Originally Posted by Old Ska

Okay, I said this in another thread too, but I'll repeat it here.

No one here asked for Rogue Cavaliers to be added as a forum here. No one has asked to be a moderator in that forum. We just showed up and it was there. I regret it in a way because it sets up the perception of an adversarial relationship, which seems to be what you are reacting to here.

That simple act of Neil's seems to have really gotten some people nervous. I do not know if it is a territorial thing, or a legitimate fear that something will be "torn apart at the seams" by someone with nefarious intentions. I do think that there are differing views among people on this forum and elsewhere on what the role of a supporters club is. What does this mean for the future (which is what I think you are trying to get at)? I can not say I don't think anyone knows for sure, I think that is all going to sort itself out. I will say again that I believe the excessive handwringing about "what-ifs" is unwarranted.

I'm not wringing my hands. I'm not panicked or concerned. I couldn't care less if there's more than one supporter's group. I'll just associate with the one that I think suits me best. We're not worried. We just are trying to figure out if there's anything going on that we don't understand. Asking for information should not be construed as panic or upset. Try to take us at face value and you'll see that mostly we are just trying to get information. That's it. If there isn't an officially formed Brigade Whatever Thingee, then just tell us that. We don't care so much as just trying to understand.

I think I've repeated myself enough. I'm trying to be very clear. We just want a clear statement to help us understand some things. Help us out? :D

[DadOf8]

I'm just wondering what RCB is all about and if someone wanted to join, what would they have to do. What are the philisophical differences between RCB and The Loyalists? I don't think there's a schism here. I'm just wondering, like some others, why two factions exist.

[alianza]

Originally Posted by Aero

And why do you come and stand with us every game?

That is were fuegote, bardguy and Pop's season ticket are...

[Aero]

Originally Posted by alianza

That is were fuegote, bardguy and Pop's season ticket are...

That's kind of a dodge to really answering the question. While that may be true now, it wasn't initially. You moved over to join us despite your tickets being somewhere else for the first few games. If you can move once, you can move again if you don't like being with us.

I'm curious though, why out of everything that I asked did you decide to answer that particular question? What is the big secret about RCB? Why is everyone that knows anything dancing around the question? Please, let's just get this all out in the open so we can deal with and make things better. It will never be healed as long as everyone keeps pretending that the problem doesn't exist.

So, I'm asking again, why was RCB formed in the first place? Why was there a need for a different group besides the Loyalists? What is it about the Loyalists that you don't like?

[alianza]

Originally Posted by DadOf8

I just realized that I was sitting with the RCB and not the Loyalists on Wednesday. Not that it matters any. Both groups were doing a great job cheering and supporting our team. Hopefully both groups will continue to grow. The bottom line is that RSL gets our support. I'm not even sure why there are two factions anyway.

If there was not a problem last game ....why do some think it is a problem now...confused?

[Stucki]

Originally Posted by alianza

If there was not a problem last game ....why do some think it is a problem now...confused?

It isn't the games that is a problem, it is the unanswered questions from the forum. Just explain what you are trying to do, and I really think people will understand.

[alianza]

Originally Posted by Aero

All I want to know is why was the RCB formed in the first place? Were the Loyalists not good enough? Are we not hardcore enough? What did you guys hope to accomplish by forming another group with your own separate and individually based hymns and stuff? Surely there must have been some motivation for it. I'm just curious what that was.

If i remember correctly....the loyalist wanted to limit the amount of mebers anyway...correct me if i am wrong?

[Mango Jam]

Originally Posted by Old Ska

That simple act of Neil's seems to have really gotten some people nervous

I think Neils' hands were tied on this. He had to do it in order to appease your group, which according to your sig was already 'formed' btw.

Originally Posted by Old Ska

I do think that there are differing views among people on this forum and elsewhere on what the role of a supporters club is.

So what is exactly your view on what a supporter's group is because you don't seem very supportive?

Why are you avoiding the issue here? Answer Aero's questions.

[Aero]

Originally Posted by alianza

If there was not a problem last game ....why do some think it is a problem now...confused?

The problem isn't at the game, it's the fact that you guys seem to want to segregate yourselves from the rest of us, yet still stand and cheer with us at the same time. If that wasn't the case, why is what I thought to be an RSL hymn being rewritten to be more specific to RCB? It's the attitude that you believe you need your own personalized hymn that is the problem. It's the frustration that is clearly there, even if it isn't shown as publicly now, that you refuse to even acknowledge. These are the problems and what is causing the divide.

If there is no problem at all, why was the RCB formed? It would seem to me that without a problem you would still consider yourselves Loyalists. And why is it such a big secret? What is the big deal?

[Stucki]

Originally Posted by alianza

If i remember correctly....the loyalist wanted to limit the amount of mebers anyway...correct me if i am wrong?

That was only a couple of people, and they were effectively shouted down.